Ok i'm confused…. If we live by faith, does that mean we are still to obey what Jesus says to do. Isn't that considered a new law? Are we free from all laws or just the old law. What freedom is there in Christ if we are still under some sort of law? Jesus makes many commands, such as taking part in the…
Yes, “living by faith” means not only believing but also being faithful. It doesn’t mean that we have to be perfectly obedient, because nobody can do that. But it does mean that we will try to do the things that Jesus told us to do. That is the “works” that James was talking about when he said “faith without works is dead”. (See James 2)
If you mess up, you don’t lose grace. If you turn away completely from Jesus then you lose grace. As long as you keep faith and keep trying to do what’s right, you are ok.
The word translated faith can also just as easily be translated faithfulness. When one is a Christian, one has the Holy Spirit within themselves. The Holy Spirit keeps one faithful to the commands of Christ.
However, this is different from the external law. There was no real life-change invovled, simply a long list of don’ts. That’s why Paul went on ever so many tyrades about people claiming one had to become a Jew to be a Christian. What those people (called Judaizers) were preaching was that one had to become circumsized and observe holy days, among other things, to be a Christian. Paul believed that these were mere external things and had no real value to the people of God. To him, the only circumsicion that mattered was the circumsicion of the heart: the inward change affected by the Holy Spirit.
At the same time, James (and to a lesser degree Paul) wrote that those who were the people of God would, in the words of John the Baptist, prove their repentance by the fruit it bears. That is to say, when one is faithful, one does what God wills.
The difference between law and grace is that external change vs inward change dynamic.
Grace is the mercy of God that forgives us for breaking God’s law. Not because God overlooks our sin, but Christ paid the price. We still have the law as a rule of life.
It is a mistake to say the OT was law and the NT grace. The OT believers experienced the same grace Christians do now. The laws we don’t keep anymore are the ceremonial laws of food, circumcision, holy days etc, for they were for Israel only to keep them a separate people till the Messiah came. The 10 commandments, or the moral law as it is often called is in effect for all people for all time.
The freedom we have in Christ is the freedom from the bondage, guilt and pollution of sin, not the liberty to live as we please. A Christian is not saved by his law keeping,(it will always be imperfect in this life) but his obedience shows that he is saved
Law demands and condemns (by human own strength to fulfill the Laws, own effort), while Grace supplies and empower a believer by faith (by the work of Holy Spirit who is living in us). But, without Law there will never need be Grace. Because no-one can achieve to fulfil all the 900 over laws of Moses including the 10 commandments, therefore we need the Grace and Mercy of God through Christ Jesus.
Only with the help of Jesus, who works within us in the form of Holy Spirit, who in turn will give us the strength and power to resist and overcome sins, by overcoming temptations, thus we fulfil the Laws. For the Laws were created for human to look in the mirror and see how filthy man has been by committing sins. While Grace coming by Jesus, to fulfil all the Laws which were impossible to fulfil all, and are now summarized only by His 2 commandments (Love your God and Love your Neighbours) And in order to be able to love your God and your neighbour, you need to first love thyself. Respect yourself in body, soul and spirit. Because, you can never be able to love, if you condemn yourself / do not possess love.
No matter how a preacher wants to put it, the essence of teaching Law and Grace have the same purpose for us, that is ultimately to live a life away from sins, as sin causes separation to God. The facts remains that sin is still the original source of problem in the beginning and in the first place. Without sin, there will be no need for God’s interventions through Jesus or through Holy Spirit, as well as there would not need to have Bible written. We all will be living in the Garden of Eden today and having immortal life.
Grace is not a law. It is a free gift flowing from Christ’s Sacrifice for us. But, yes, we also have to do something to get the grace, the “free pass” to the Divine Beatific Vision of the Triune God. We have to receive the Grace through the Seven Sacraments established by Christ while He was on earth. We have “Faith” that this law He gives us will deliver on His promise, that in receiving the Sacraments and the Sanctifying Grace which they bestow, we WILL receive the Beatific Vision at the time of death. We have faith in this Doctrine put into words by Christ’s Church. Thise wirds are oeroetyakkt DE FIDE, or “of the Faith.” We believe then in the law which governs the Doctrine as it is Divine Law. Obedience is first, then the Sacrament, (Baptism), the Grace flows into the soul, the promise is guaranteed. That is FAITH.
The soul which remains FAITHFUL to not sinning, retains Possession of grace at death and achieves the PROMISE. tHAT IS THE SUM OF THE LAW or PROMISE, of GRACE. The details of doctrine define the structure of Divine Law to which one commits BY FAITH to hold. For instance, one can say he has “faith” in the power of Divine Law–but he can be disobedient to the Divine Law at the same time. Those without Sanctifying Grace are actually not “of the Faith” at all. A restoration to Grace is needed in order to become “of the Faith.”
Christ came to earth to give the world His Sacrifice, and to give souls the Sacramental Graces which flow from His Sacrificial Sacraments, Baptism, Penance, Communion, Confirmation, Matrimony, Holy Orders, and Extreme Unction. God’s Grace is ONLY given in sanctifying Sacraments, received by being absolved from sin first, then by the reception of the other sacraments while in that State of absolution. Grace is the assist of Divine Power which enables the soul to resist the temptations of the devil to disobey God’s Law and to thus achieve the Beatific Vision for which we were procreated.
Traditional Catholics of Trent at traditionalmass.org/
Under Law, you obey and adhere to a VERY specific set of rules, regulations, limits, etc….
Under Grace, you are no longer bound to or under those specific rules, regulations, limits, etc…. Note * – with exceptions !!!!!
Law – You obeyed each and EVERY law given, for worship, living, society, personal, etc
Grace – Unmerited favor – God looks at the heart of *faith* NOT actions done or *works*..
Note * faith has ALWAYS been the key to it all…. Who but one with faith will follow God ?
The Law was given to Moses for a very specific reason, that was to * separate peoples* for God. The world had all but forgotten the One True God…. The God of ALL Creation… God made the choice to call out Abram (Abraham) .. God lead them *gently* at first, there were no God set rules and regulations, they were governed by faith… Then things had to change after the Exodus… There had to be *limits* set forth to make the Jewish People *Israel* a *peculiar people* . God wanted them , as I said, separated from the rest of the peoples…. So rules, laws, limits were set for JUST that one group of people, the Jew !!
As we all know, the Law was almost impossible to keep, follow and be strictly adhered to…. So other plans were set in motion….. The Messiah was to come…..
After the Resurrection , The Gospel of Grace came about… With Jesus as our Lord and Savior, we have no need for Law, worship or other wise, *with exceptions*…. When we are placed in the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit, ALL the Laws are fulfilled…. That is the Grace of God….
We no longer have to sacrifice at a certain place or time….. Keep this day Holy or that day, they are ALL Holy ….. That is the Grace of God…..Jesus is the Temple, the Sacrifice, the Lamps, the Altar, the Law, etc…… That is the Grace of God !!!
Hope I helped at least a small bit…..
Child of God – X atheist
WHAT IT MEANS TO NOT BE UNDER THE LAW :
(Romans 10:4) “Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes,”will help in understanding what is means that Christians are not under the law. The apostle Paul clarifies the effects of original sin in Romans 2:12, stating “All who sin apart from the law will perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law.” All men stand condemned before God, whether they are Jews or not, or to put it another way, whether they have the Law of God or not. Paul also states “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23).
The Law is the issue that has to be dealt with in order to bring us into a right relationship with God. “Know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified” (Galatians 2:16). This passage reveals that the Law cannot justify or make righteous any man in God’s sight, which is why God sent His Son to completely fulfil the requirements of the Law for all those who would ever believe in Him.
Christ Jesus redeemed us from the curse that has been brought through the law by becoming a curse for us (Galatians 3:13). He substituted Himself in our place and upon the cross took the punishment that is justly ours so that we are no longer under the curse of the Law. In doing so, He fulfilled and upheld the requirements of the Law. This does not mean that Christians are to be lawless, as some advocate today—a teaching called antinomianism. Rather, it means that we are free from the Mosaic Law and instead under the law of Christ, which is to love God with all of our being and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves.
Christ became the end of the Law by virtue of what He did on earth through His sinless life and His sacrifice on the cross. So, the Law no longer has any bearing over us because its demands have been fully met in the Lord Jesus Christ. Faith in Christ who satisfied the righteous demands of the Law restores us into a pleasing relationship with God and keeps us there. No longer under the penalty of the Law, we now live under the law of grace in the love of God.
The question I believe = how are humans saved, by grace or through the law?
Grace = through God’s undeserved favor
Law = by following a set of rules faultlessly
faith is believing in something without evidence. I’m pretty sure you can have faith and still obey laws. If you want details ask a priest.
the laws are the commandments we should live by to help us live righteously. Grace is what God will show unto you in judging your sins.